Russian Olympic Committee president Stanislav Pozdnyakov says....

[lavender]

Russian Olympic Committee president Stanislav Pozdnyakov basically said he's not going to give up team gold

So how is he going to keep the gold when they haven't been handed out. He also can't stop them from changing the results

 

[NanaPat]

So how is he going to keep the gold when they haven't been handed out. He also can't stop them from changing the results

He's not going to.

But Russia can pretend that they won the Gold. There are monetary (and other) rewards that Russian athletes get if they win an Olympic gold medal. I wondered if the team medalists would get these rewards even if the team medal is stripped/not awarded/downgraded. They can ignore that and give the athletes the benefits anyway.

That actually wouldn't upset me. The skaters (except for KV) earned it.

 

[luvsasha]

ISU already has the team and women's results as "provisional." He can't really keep a gold that they haven't received yet. That was the whole point of not handing out the medals.

 

[lavender]

I guess just delusional thinking.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep it. Russia infuses so much money into the Olympics that they could probably get stripped of 43 medals in the past 20 years and still be allowed to compete and avoid sanctioning. Oh wait.

 

[anonymoose_au]

I think Russian Olympic Committee president Stanislav Pozdnyako should be focussing on more than one gold medal.

He needs to clean up Russian sport otherwise there'll probably be no more gold medals.

Because Russia will be banned, no ROC, no OAR nothing.

Get your house in order!

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

I think Russian Olympic Committee president Stanislav Pozdnyako should be focussing on more than one gold medal.

He needs to clean up Russian sport otherwise there'll probably be no more gold medals.

Because Russia will be banned, no ROC, no OAR nothing.

Get your house in order!

The IOC is soft and Russia knows it. This might be the tipping point but I’m not betting on it. No amount of name changing or minimum age raising will dissuade them from doping their athletes because in the end the medal for mother Russia supercedes any shame/ban/ahtlete’s life being ruined/etc.

 

[alexocfp]

It doesn’t matter who will or won’t give the medals or get the medals back.

The scoreboard never lies. Russia did end up with the most points after everything was aggregated. For me, the issue ends there.

 

[iceskater10]

It doesn’t matter who will or won’t give the medals or get the medals back.

The scoreboard never lies. Russia did end up with the most points after everything was aggregated. For me, the issue ends there.

not if the doping ends up taking the women's scores away.

 

[el henry]

No team has been awarded the gold from the Team Event. It's not his to "give up"

A lot of "You can't fire me, I quit" energy here

 

[lariko]

I’m glad the other athletes would get paid though and get the perks internally. It’s not their fault.

 

[lavender]

No team has been awarded the gold from the Team Event. It's not his to "give up"

A lot of "You can't fire me, I quit" energy here

Exactly...I'm like what...you don't have the gold medal to give...

 

[Arigato]

He can go pound sand. Or ice.

 

[Ziotic]

Russia needs to actually be banned for the next two Olympics, no competing under some nameless flag.

 

[Ladskater]

I feel the team event should be eliminated all together from the Olympics. Figure Skating never had a "team" event in the past.

 

[Artemisa]

Let's be honest we can debate gold or not gold ... in the end RoC has won the team gold. We can say Kamila had tested positive almost two month before and shouldn't been able to participate ( but know one knew that .... so you can't penalize someone after a match because they used a player that before the match they didn't know that they couldn't use!!!) ..... but the truth is that even if they had remove kamila ... ana or sasha would have won in the women's event... SO even if they take off the ROC medal the other teams would have won in the "office" and not in the field.

And if USA really wanted to won the team event ... probably they should have use Nathan Chen in both segments and Alysa in the women's event .. they were the clear choices

 

[Mafke]

The problem with the anti-doping infrastructure in sports is that it targets the small time operators (individual competitors who may not have a choice) and leaves the big players alone.
After the revelations about Sochi... Russia (and athletes who are Russian citizens) should have been prevented form attending in 2018, 2020 and 2022... that would get the attention of the Russian federation. As it was, they learned nothing except that all will be forgiven and they can still compete and be treated as heroes at home. Not a good message.
You want to stop doping then go for the big boys.

 

[iceskater10]

Let's be honest we can debate gold or not gold ... in the end RoC has won the team gold. We can say Kamila had tested positive almost two month before and shouldn't been able to participate ( but know one knew that .... so you can't penalize someone after a match because they used a player that before the match they didn't know that they couldn't use!!!) ..... but the truth is that even if they had remove kamila ... ana or sasha would have won in the women's event... SO even if they take off the ROC medal the other teams would have won in the "office" and not in the field.

And if USA really wanted to won the team event ... probably they should have use Nathan Chen in both segments and Alysa in the women's event .. they were the clear choices

Win by doping doesn't WIN!!!!!!!

 

[reneerose]

He's not going to.

But Russia can pretend that they won the Gold. There are monetary (and other) rewards that Russian athletes get if they win an Olympic gold medal. I wondered if the team medalists would get these rewards even if the team medal is stripped/not awarded/downgraded. They can ignore that and give the athletes the benefits anyway.

That actually wouldn't upset me. The skaters (except for KV) earned it.

How do you know for sure the other skaters weren't also getting occasional endurance enhancing drugs but simply didn't get caught like KV?
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On another separate point, BTW, I don't agree with the CAS decision on not letting the non-ROC teams not get their medal. Why can't they hand out cardboard medals like they do at the French Grand Prix event so they have a symbolic ceremony until the whole doping investigation is over then give everyone their real medals? What's wrong with a provisional Olympic Ceremony, just so the teams can have their Olympic moment? It's just a shame to have to have worked all of those years since childhood only to get your medal Fed Ex -d to you on a time delay because of the ensuing investigation. That does irreparable harm to people who have skated clean their entire career. Why couldn't they award the cardboard medals to just the 2nd and 3rd place teams without the provisional 1st place team present?

 

[VickB]

I feel the team event should be eliminated all together from the Olympics. Figure Skating never had a "team" event in the past.

Maybe replace the team event with Big Air event...